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Mesaj Scris de michiper68 Sam 30 Iun 2012, 8:14 pm

Transcription of the backstage chat between Beren and Shafky
For those who don't understand english : Google translate >>> http://translate.google.com/#en|tr|%0A

Video : http://www.alqaheraalyoum.net/videos/pla...=b617344aa


"We decided to share with you everything we saw, so we will show you the making of , of our meeting with Beren Saat."

Shafky : Did you visit Egypt or any arabic country before ?
Beren : no, no I have never been there.
Shafky : you have to.
Beren : Yes I think so.
Shafky : Yes you will love it. You know, if you walk in the street in Egypt or any arabic country, they will recognize you.
Beren : Yes I know it
Shafky : And we have posters of advertisement that you made, for make up or stuff like that. They are everywhere.
Beren : Really ? oh my God. Ah.. because I was the face of Rexona.
Beren : This is my first time making an interview for any arabic country by the way.
Shafky : Oh really ?
Beren : Yeah
Shafky : But did you hear the dubbing voice in arabic ?
Beren : Yeah !
Shafky : She is great !
Beren : Yeah, you think so ?
Shafky : You know, Fatma's way of speaking in arabic or turkish is the same.
Beren : OK but I haven't seen Fatmagul (in arabic), I have seen Ask-i memnu so I don't know.
Shafky : Do you know how many times we see it ? All week long. 5 days for episodes and in the week-end they rerun all the episodes of the week.
Beren : really ? ... I think the same voice dubbed the two roles (Bihter and Fatmagul)
Shafky : Yes it's the same voice of Ask-i memnu. She's the same lady


(A part of Fatmagul's meeting with Kristen during the barbecue)
Then, Beren learning how to say the arabic sentence "Shoufouni ala el Qahera el youm" 31 (=watch me on "Cairo today")

"As for the arabic language, Beren turned out to be better than Kerim"

Beren : Qahera youm, Qahera el youm shoufouni ... ?
Shafky : Yeah
Beren : shoufouni ala el Qahera el youm ? 31
Beren : shoufouni ala el Qahera el youm , Beren Saat
Beren : shoufouni ala el Qahera ... ne ? ah, el youm 33

(Then they showed Beren on the laptop, the interviews they made with Egyptian people in the street. And they give their opinions about her )

"I like her very much. As a model she is so unique. I haven't seen anyone like her. I like the shape of her neck" (Beren laughs)

"She is an extraordinary actress. She makes you feel the drama. You feel sad when she is sad, and happy when she is happy. She doesn't make you feel that she is acting. She makes you feel that it is real and she is living it"



"We showed Beren the admiration of the Egyptian viewers. But she had to leave quickly because she needed to resume the shooting."
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beren's interview

Video : http://www.alqaheraalyoum.net/videos/pla...=932feee6e

First, what people said about Beren while being interviewed in the street

0:30
The star of "Fatma" series is a very famous star. And everyone in Egypt share the same admiration for her.
Fatma is an innocent girl who has been raped. And everyone agrees that Beren is very successful and very convincing in this role.

0:47
Excellent performance, and the best thing about her performance is that you can't know her real feeling about a situation right away. She has the capacity of delivering a reaction/emotion that will become clear afterwards.


01:04
She's outstanding. Outstanding, I love her. And the series is very beautiful.


01:08
She's strong, she's obviously a strong (actress)


01:14
All the turkish series are nice and the actors look good and dress good. But she is a good actress


01:25
I like her a lot. She's anyway a great model. Until now, I've not seen anyone like her, either from the inside or from the outside. I like her neck

01:40
She's an outstanding actress. She makes you live the drama. When she cries it looks real, when she's happy we feel happy. She makes you feel that it is not acting, it's true. So you live the story along with her, and you don't feel like she is repeating a scenario that she memorized.

02:04
She's a very beautiful actress

02:06
She has a lot of self confidence, regardless of the role she is playing. In one role she is a servant, in another role she is a princess. She is convincing in both of them. I feel like she is a strong person.

02:26
I hated her character in Ask-i memnu, as much as she was bad and evil. She convinced me that she was really like that.

02:39
She looks good, she's cute. I didn't like her character in ask-i memnu, but she performed her role in a very professional way. And in the new series (Fatma) her character is great. She was able to stand on her feet again and beat her weaknesses.

03:08
As an actress she is excellent. And as a model she is also great

@03:11
-Honestly her role is very difficult and she is very good in it. And this is her second role I watch after Ask-i memnu.
-Which role did you prefer the most ?
-The last one, Fatma's role. She lived a big tragedy and she had the courage not to surrender and not to lose hope.

@3:33
I liked her in both roles. Because I felt she is capable of delivering two completely different characters. I liked her when I saw her the first time, and I like her even more when I saw her the second time, when I realized how different her characters were.

@3:48
I liked Fatma more. Fatma's role is very beautiful, very convincing.

@03:56
I prefer Fatma. Because you feel she is quiet and weak and a victim. Especially when the guys attacked her. This role touched me a lot.

@4:11
Fatma. Fatma is more convincing than Ask-i memnu. Maybe because the story is pure drama in the beginning, and afterwards it starts changing into something else.

@4:19
I would like to ask her (Beren) how she managed to portray such opposite characters. It's something very nice.

@04:25
I want to ask her : do you really feel what you say, or is it only acting ? Did you really have the will to discuss this subject, or it was just a role that what proposed to you and you accepted it ?

@04:39
Do you love Kerim the way he loves you ? (oh my god 24 ) He is a good guy, I want her to know this information.

@04:46
Will you marry him or not ?

@04:49
If she was really in the same situation as Fatma, would she be able to beat her fears and become strong ?

@5:40
Shafky : Beren Saat, Fatma, I welcome you and congratulate you. Welcome to "al qahera al youm" and orbit stations. The viewers of Egypt and the Arab world welcome you.
Beren : Welcome to you too, thank you

@5:56
Shafky : Did you hear about the success of the series, the success of your role as Fatma. Did anyone tell you how much it has succeeded in the arab world ?
Beren : Yes I have a small idea about it. I have come across arab tourists here in Turkey, and I noticed that the series is very popular over there.

@6:17
Shafky : Ask-i memnu series introduced Beren Saat to the viewers, and everyone got attached to it thanks to your great performance. But in Fatma you played a very hard role. How did you manage to create this difference between these two roles ?
Beren : For me, the acting job requires that I represent each role in a different way. Fatma had to be different than Bihter of course. As for the emotions and feelings, they come from inside myself. Fatmagul was a peasant girl, so I had to meet and observe peasant girls to prepare myself for this role.

@7:13
Shafky : I heard about this turkish law that allows rapists to become innocent if they marry the girl they raped for one year. And that's why you made this series.
Beren : Yes. Originally it was a movie done 20 years ago and back then, this law existed. Now it has been changed. Now, rape has become an infraction of the women rights in Turkey, and in the last 3 years, things have improved a lot in the field of violence against women and laws have been modified.

@8:12
Shafky : I feel you are happy to represent a social issue. I would like to know the Turkish women's reaction to this series.
Beren : This character attracted people's attention and during the past 2 years, we talked a lot about rape and how a raped girl can overcome her tragedy throughout rehabilitation, and how society deals with this girl, her fiance, his family, her village. We saw how she had to leave to another city and what she had to go through because of that. The rich family she had to face.
I think that society now talks about this issue in a more positive way. The trauma that a raped girl faces, can only be treated with love and patience. Kerim's character is very important for such women too. He is very patient and he accepts everything from the girl he loves. And this solves a lot of problems. That's why the Turkish woman liked this role because it gave hope to the victims.

@9:50
Shafky : Is your continuous success from Ask-i memnu to Fatma, also related to the director ? You and her form a teamwork. You understand each other and she can take the best out of your acting skills ?
Beren : Of course. An actor can never succeed all alone. Of course he has to be talented, but there has to be a good writer, a good director who helps the actors. We are around 100 persons in this teamwork. Actually the viewer enjoys the series even without realizing the efforts of all these people behind it. They see a beautiful picture, nice lighting, a beautiful music.. a lot of parameters make a series successful. That's why, an actor all alone can't do anything. A good team is a must.

@11:04
Shafky : Great. I want to ask you a very important question. The rape scene is one of the most difficult scenes to any woman, not only to an actress. How were you able to live this scene, and deliver this great performance that was so natural that we really thought a girl is being raped ?
Beren : For me, it was very difficult of course. And it took a lot of time to film. But it wasn't difficult just for me. It was difficult for the other actors too. Even the ladies of the team who were there that night, were very affected. I got very affected physically and emotionally for many days after it, because I became deeply linked with this role. On ano ther hand, understanding a character and its structure moves my feelings and make me act in this way. Yes, it was hard, but today for example, I played a hard scene too for example. Pulling a woman from her hair, I've never done such a thing in my life, but it is in the story and I have to do it in a convincing way. There were a lot of difficult scenes to shoot, the fights, the traumas ... I had to understand them from inside in order to act them.

@13:00
Shafky : I agree with you, and we received the emotions you were trying to deliver... After the rape you were dressing in a special way. You were always wearing additional things under your dresses, covering you neck with scarves. Was it planned ? because a raped girl closes on herself , even in the way she dresses ?
Beren : We worked with psychiatrists who helped us understand the character. After the rape, everyone blames the raped girl. Even herself. She keeps asking herself all the time "what did I do ? what is my mistake ? " Fatmagul's clothes that we used after the rape were important. She doesn't stay late outside anymore, she doesn't leave her hair loose. She stops taking care of herself like women usually do. That's what the specialists explained to us. She keeps blaming herself, and that's what we did. Fatmagul tied her hair, wore dark clothes in order not to attract attention. And after time passed and she started going for therapy and falling in love with a man, she started wearing more colorful clothes, and showing her neck, and letting her hair free, and putting a little bit of make-up. Now Fatmagul is laughing and trying to heal herself and deal with live in a positive way.

@14:48
Shafky : There is something really weird. While watching you, we feel like we were living with you in the same house. You, Kerim, Rahmi, Mukaddes, Meryem. Your traditions are very close to our traditions in the arab world.
Beren : Yes we are close. After moving to the city, they needed to live altogether in the same house. Culture wise we are close to each other. Lately I watched again the movie "separation" who won an oscar, and I noticed how much the societies look alike in the way they react to things. We refer to the arab countries as the "oriental turkey". Of course there are a lot of physical differences but humanly we look a lot like each other. That's what I think.

@16:00
Shafky : I feel that Beren Saat comes from a high class society. You know many languages, english, spanish ... You are a good dancer, you come from a family where your father is an engineer. How did you manage to portray a simple girl like Fatma ?
Beren : Even my role in ask-i memnu was completely different than my own personality. I'm not that kind of woman. And I played other roles too, of women different than I am. The best thing about the acting job is that we discover new characters, like in a laboratory. We read a character and get to know it. And on the top of it, I add a part of own myself as Beren in it. I add emotions and feelings ... and in the end, we might change the viewer's opinion about a character and make them love it... Acting is very important to me, and I love this job.

@17:26
Shafky : we saw Bihter in aski memnu, with Behlul. And now Fatma with Kerim. And both were successful. The next dizi might be with Kivanç or Kerim ? or maybe another actor will succeed with Beren ?
Beren : It all depends on the projects proposed to us. We don't have the luxury of choosing partners. But I worked with a lot of talented partners, I had the chance to be in good combinations. After that with whom I will be I don't know. It all depends on the project and the story. But I hope I will be lucky too, and I hope you will like it too.

@18:24
Shafky : You have 2 unforgettable scenes. The suicide scene in ask-i memu, and the rape scene in Fatma. As an actress, you perform this kind of scenes in a single day in order to rest ?
Beren : I don't watch them. I usually don't watch my roles again. Because ...well.. of course I watch the major scenes to judge myself and improve. But only one time. Because ... when I act I use the things I find inside myself on that moment.

@19:18
Shafky : You are very beautiful -mashallah- but you are natural. And people keep wondering whether you have make-up or not. I want to tell them that you don't have make-up at all.
Beren : Well, of course during shootings we have to have some make-up for the cameras. That's how it happens in the whole world. But in my daily life as Beren, I don't like make-up at all.

@19:50
Shafky : Today we are on the set of your new house with Kerim. While in the arabic version, we are still watching you in your old house.
Beren : Yes for you it's a new place that you haven't seen yet. For us, we have been here for a few weeks now. After they got married, Fatmagul and Kerim move here. We love it it's a nice place.

@20:16
Shafky : How many episodes are left ? The series is showing in Turkey are you are still shooting. Is it hard to do ?
Beren : For us, there are still 5 episodes. On the turkish system, there are 80 episodes for the finale. But for you, you split each episode into 2 parts so it will take longer.

@20:44
Shafky : I heard that you will take a long vacation, and you are running away to USA.
Beren : I haven't made a program for my vacations. But it won't be a long vacation because I have to shoot a cinema movie. So I will just relax a bit to concentrate on the movie.

@21:00
Shafky : Are you thinking of visiting an arabic country, for example coming to our studio in "al qahera al youm" ?
Beren : I haven't visited any arabic country yet, but I think it would be interesting. There are some places on my mind... I'm interested in Beirut, I'm interested in Egypt. And I'm sure one day i will do it.

@21:20
Shafky : Welcome anyway, we are waiting for you. We thank you for you great roles. You put a lot of effort in them. It's obvious that you are an educated actress ... thanks a lot of the interview you gave us.
Beren : I'm the one who thank you. I thank all the arab world for following us and loving us. I hope that in the future you will watch any new series or movie, and you will follow it with the same passion.





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Multumim Michi. Cam enervata reportera, chestia cu provii din inalta clasa stii mai multe limbi straine.Intr-un fel a clarificat Beren stirea ca ea la adus pe Engin in dizi cand a spus ca ei nu-si pot alege partenerii.
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INTERESTING READS FROM: Foz Fahad ( source EAUFC)

An analysis of Engin Personality through his body gestures:
firstly, his handshake to the host was a neutral one: none of both hands are parallel to the floor and that indicates respect and gentleness.. Titling the head while shaking the hand also means that he is a gentleman..
Secondly, Twisted Hands ( crossing both hands then clasping the palms together) indicates a complex personality. It also means he's listening well to the host which says (He's a good listener)..
Thirdly: using both hands while explaining says that he's a passionate, confident, expressive person . Usually visionary and creative people do this. Its done to build a picture of emphasis, give clarity to speech, denote key points and help understanding.. That means he's creative and visionary as well
Fourthly, he had a genuine smile and as you know this smile involves the whole face including the eyes… More than just the mouth, many facial muscles are in action. The most visible is the tightening around the eyes. This action around the eyes is extremely difficult to fake.. His smile says he is friendly, honest and open minded ..
Fifthly, while answering he tends to look to the left and that indicates he's using the left side of the brain which is often thought of as the logical thinking, visionary and creative side.. Also he tends to look at the host 60% of the time and that says he's somewhat shy ..
Sixthly, when she asked him about people's opinions of his relationship with Beren & also when she asked him about the compettition with Kivanc he crossed his arms which means he wasn't happy with the question or he disagrees what what've been just said..
Eighthly, sitting with hands open and palms up shows that he's an honest and simple-hearted man..
Lastly, hair movements are exclusive to Engin and him onl
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NEATA !!!

MICHI ...multumim ptr interviuri ; intr-adevar actrita care o dubleaza pe Beren in FG,la arabi ,are vocea asemanatoare cu a ei ....dar si cea care o dubleaza pe Mukko e incredibila....

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dubaisport a scris:NEATA !!!

MICHI ...multumim ptr interviuri ; intr-adevar actrita care o dubleaza pe Beren in FG,la arabi ,are vocea asemanatoare cu a ei ....dar si cea care o dubleaza pe Mukko e incredibila....

o zi racoroasa tuturor !!

neatza!

adica mai exista o actrita pisicoasa ca beren?? beren si cand vorbeste in engleza e haioasa. cred ca are corzile vocale incretite ca-i ies sunetele de parca are vocea in schimbare.
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Fatmagulun Suçu Ne - Veda - Behind the scene


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FGSN Soundtrack


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Mesaj Scris de victorelalove Dum 01 Iul 2012, 3:28 pm

Buna ziua , dragi copii !!!

Ce mai faceti ?
Bine v-am gasit !!
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victorelalove a scris:Buna ziua , dragi copii !!!

Ce mai faceti ?
Bine v-am gasit !!

buna!!! eu astept iarna. te las sa citesti ca sunt poze si interviuri noi. sa-l vezi ce scump e in interviul de la egipteni...
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michiper68 a scris:

buna!!! eu astept iarna. te las sa citesti ca sunt poze si interviuri noi. sa-l vezi ce scump e in interviul de la egipteni...

Iarna ?
De ce ? Te-ai saturat de caldura ? kiss


Cat de scump este Engin . Intreadevar . Iti este mai mare dragul sa te uiti la el . 41. Fatmagül'un sucu ne ? ~ General Discussions - Comentarii - Pagina 8 283516

Mi-a placut interviul cu el . kiss
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victorelalove a scris:

Iarna ?
De ce ? Te-ai saturat de caldura ? kiss


Cat de scump este Engin . Intreadevar . Iti este mai mare dragul sa te uiti la el . 41. Fatmagül'un sucu ne ? ~ General Discussions - Comentarii - Pagina 8 283516

Mi-a placut interviul cu el . kiss

si mie. au analizat fanii si gesturile lui. au zis ca mana prin par e gestul lui unic. si mi-a placut ca au lasat si secventele alea cu pregatirile pt interviu.
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michiper68 a scris:

si mie. au analizat fanii si gesturile lui. au zis ca mana prin par e gestul lui unic. si mi-a placut ca au lasat si secventele alea cu pregatirile pt interviu.
Da . Pare asa de ancorat in realitate Engin . Pare "uman" . kiss
La pregatirile pentru interviu ...cred ca ii puneau lavaliera . Dar de ce i-au mai dat pe el sacoul ? Ca parea destul de cald afara .kiss
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Da . Pare asa de ancorat in realitate Engin . Pare "uman" . kiss
La pregatirile pentru interviu ...cred ca ii puneau lavaliera . Dar de ce i-au mai dat pe el sacoul ? Ca parea destul de cald afara .kiss

era oricum in hainele de la sponsor. putea sa le dea jos. fanii sunt suparati ca pe beren a intrebat-o mai multe. iar pe hilara nu am vazut-o eu ca nu m-a interesat. mi-au placut imaginile de la filmari cu mukka si ablu si toata echipa pe acolo.
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Mesaj Scris de victorelalove Dum 01 Iul 2012, 3:46 pm

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era oricum in hainele de la sponsor. putea sa le dea jos. fanii sunt suparati ca pe beren a intrebat-o mai multe. iar pe hilara nu am vazut-o eu ca nu m-a interesat. mi-au placut imaginile de la filmari cu mukka si ablu si toata echipa pe acolo.

Beren este aristocrata . Smile I se cuvenea exclusivitate ... au lucrat mai mult la intrebarile pentru ea . Engin este mai din topor ... stupid Asa i s-o fi parut tantiei . Smile
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au tradus fanii si ce a zis fahretin bey la emisiune


Serdar Gokhan: "I'll tell you something interesting; Engin Akyurek who plays my son in FGSN resembles my youth. He is just like me. Hair,etc. And they (production firm) searched for it and then they found me. This is such a match: father and son; Also, I loved him a lot."
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Mesaj Scris de victorelalove Dum 01 Iul 2012, 3:48 pm

Michi , am pus interviul si la Engin pe topic .kiss
Baba ... putea sa apara si el in ultimul episod . Si Deniz .
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Mesaj Scris de michiper68 Dum 01 Iul 2012, 3:49 pm

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Beren este aristocrata . Smile I se cuvenea exclusivitate ... au lucrat mai mult la intrebarile pentru ea . Engin este mai din topor ... stupid Asa i s-o fi parut tantiei . Smile
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este din clasa superioara, stie mai multe limbi...si tatal ei a fost inginer.

acum cred ca are dreptate. eu m-am uitat cu atentie la dop si chiar se rezuma la mai multe limbi. si beren le stie. engin nu stie. nu e din clasa superioara. tatal lui nu stiu exact ce a fost dar se pare ca sigur nu inginer superior. cred ca a fost profesor. mult inferior.
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victorelalove a scris:Michi , am pus interviul si la Engin pe topic .kiss
Baba ... putea sa apara si el in ultimul episod . Si Deniz .

foarte bine! mersi mult.
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este din clasa superioara, stie mai multe limbi...si tatal ei a fost inginer.
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Si poza cu el ? Ultima postata de tine ... este de zilele astea ? kiss
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Mesaj Scris de michiper68 Dum 01 Iul 2012, 3:53 pm

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Smile Smile Smile

Si poza cu el ? Ultima postata de tine ... este de zilele astea ? kiss

asha au scris. poza noua. aia cu un stalp in spate? sau un palmier? o fi in vacanta ca daca si fanii nu scriu unde e facuta...si cine e langa el. poate e in curtea lui si atunci stiam ,ma linisteam ca e acasa.
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asha au scris. poza noua. aia cu un stalp in spate? sau un palmier? o fi in vacanta ca daca si fanii nu scriu unde e facuta...si cine e langa el. poate e in curtea lui si atunci stiam ,ma linisteam ca e acasa.
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Offfffffffff ...dar de ce toti au aparate de fotografiat cu 2 megapixeli ? Nu am nimic cu oamenii . Dar unul nu se gaseste sa aibe un aparat mai bun ? Sa iasa o poza mai clara ? Zici ca sunt facute cu dalta si ciocanul pe piatra unele poza . Crying or Very sad Dar hai ca sunt rea .
Acasa nu cred ca este ... desi sigur are palmieri in curte . Asa am inteles . kiss

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Offfffffffff ...dar de ce toti au aparate de fotografiat cu 2 megapixeli ? Nu am nimic cu oamenii . Dar unul nu se gaseste sa aibe un aparat mai bun ? Sa iasa o poza mai clara ? Zici ca sunt facute cu dalta si ciocanul pe piatra unele poza . Crying or Very sad Dar hai ca sunt rea .
Acasa nu cred ca este ... desi sigur are palmieri in curte . Asa am inteles . kiss

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cred ca sunt facute cu telefonul. desi la cum arata sunt facute cu pixul. si telefoanele fac poze mai bune. si de data asta a stat la poza. bine ca au prins copacul din spate.
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